Theres more to the story than a Conservative that says the F word

It seems lately when it comes to the local inquiry into the shooting of Dudley George all we seem to hear is how the premier at the time ( Mike Harris) was to blame, for the violent and tragic outcome at the occupied provincial park. Before I go farther, it does seem the Army Camp lands should have been returned to the Stoney Point natives long ago . This may have saved a tragic death, and a 15 million dollar inquiry into why it happened. However one could easily wonder if demands from some natives will ever end. Common sense would dictate an illegal takeover of a provincial park would bring grief upon any common man, however today's political correctness and the appeasement that follows minorities (most of the time) may lead some of them to believe they are above the law.

Reading MPP Marcel Beaubien's testimony refreshes ones memory when it comes to the comments and feelings of friends and acquaintances that where floating around at the time of the take over. Not all events leading up to the gunfire filled night of Sept 6 1995 where the "white mans" problem, and I sincerely hope 15 million dollars worth of testimony doesn't end in a one sided exercise in appeasement, and an excuse for anarchy.
I have to give Marcel credit he told it like it was, and if anyone wonders why many people here have little sympathy for the native cause, these are a few of the reasons :

(Taken from the transcripts)

(Lawyer) Q: And perhaps you could tell us if you
12 could, describe where the -- the piece of property or the
13 lands in question were located relative to the Park and
14 the Army Camp?
15 (Marcel) A: Well, it would be -- it's located
16 west of -- of the Army Camp but closer to the Kettle
17 Stony --
18 Q: Point Reserve?
19 A: That's right, yeah.
20 Q: All right. And how did this matter
21 come to your attention as a member of Provincial
22 Parliament?
23 A: Well, like I said it was brought to
24 my attention by friends and they were very frustrated
25 also and -- and I shared their -- their concern and

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1 their frustration because some of them, I don't know,
2 some of them lived there for a number of years.
3 They had -- they thought they had a clear
4 title to their land and I'm sure when they purchased the
5 property that they had paid the land transfer tax. And I
6 thought in Ontario that once you had a clear deed to your
7 property that you should be able to enjoy that property
8 and these people were not able to do that.
9 And I felt that the Provincial Government
10 had some type of responsibility to help these people in
11 defraying some of the costs. There were some tremendous
12 amount of legal costs involved with that which they
13 pocketed themselves.
14 And I think we all have to look at ourself
15 and ask each -- each one of us has to ask the question:
16 If I were in their boat or in their situation how would I
17 feel, especially when I have a piece of paper that tells
18 me that I've got a legal deed to my property? I paid all
19 the taxes and somebody comes along and says, No. And the
20 Province is sitting on the sideline doing nothing.
21 So, it was a -- you know I could -- I
22 could see why the people are frustrated with that
23 particular situation.
24 Q: All right. And just so that we're
25 all familiar with what you're speaking of do -- do -- can

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1 you just tell us firstly who you understood the parties
2 to this dispute to be and what the dispute was about so
3 far as you understood it?
4 A: Well, as far as I understood it
5 apparently the -- you know again, you know I'm going back
6 and I haven't refreshed but I -- I think the -- the suit
7 was somewhat unique because as opposed to having a land
8 claim on that property each individual property owner was
9 being sued by the natives which --
10 Q: By which organization?
11 A: Pardon?
12 Q: By -- by whom were they --
13 A: By the natives. By the --
14 Q: Can you be more specific?
15 A: The Kettle Stony.
16 Q: The First Nation?
17 A: That's right, yeah.
18 Q: All right.
19 A: And so it certainly presented an
20 interesting twist because it was not your typical land
21 claim and so consequently people were left to themselves
22 to -- and they had to fend for themself also, you know,
23 financially and legally and everything




Q: And can you tell us in -- in general
5 what those concerns were that were being conveyed to you
6 as MPP?
7 A: Well aside from the -- the claim,
8 there was no doubt that there was some intimidation,
9 some harassment, some break-ins, people were being threatened
10 in some cases.
11 And these are the complaints that, you
12 know, that I was fielding from the constituents.
13 Q: All right. And did they tell you who
14 -- who they believed were causing the intimidation and
15 the other acts you -- you've indicated?
16 A: Yeah. In -- in this case the finger
17 was pointed at -- at the Natives.
18 Q: And any particular group?
19 A: Well that fluctuated because some of
20 them were familiar to the people that lived there but
21 others they weren't -- you know, they didn't know who
22 they were. They were new faces.
23 Q: All right. And did the constituents
24 draw a link between this activity and the West Ipperwash
25 litigation?

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1 A: Well I think some people alluded to
2 the fact that, you know, maybe it was part and parcel but
3 I, you know, I'm only going by what the people were
4 telling me. I don't know. Like I said I don't live in
5 the area so it's something that I did not certainly
6 experience myself.


I went to one of the landowner meetings at a local Arena I didn't own land in West Ipperwash but I certainly sympathized with the residents that worked hard and payed taxes, just to have one land claim ruin their peaceful lives and many of those people where retired it was sad to see the despair and helplessness on many landowners faces, hard work and being responsible citizens certainly earned them more respect from both the federal and provincial governments.

A letter from one of the residents taken from the transcripts.

"I retired from teaching in June of
14 1991, continued to work until she was
15 diagnosed with stomach cancer in June
16 of 1992. We made our house at West
17 Ipperwash beach our principle residence
18 during the summer of 1992.
19 We were served with a papers for the
20 land claim of the Chippewa of Kettle
21 and Stony in December of 1992."

Comments on the matter from Marcel :

4 for most people, home ownership is the largest investment
5 that they make.
6 And if you're like this person here,
7 basically retired, probably on a fixed income and all of
8 a sudden your largest investment that you work a whole
9 lifetime is being challenged, I would strongly suggest to
10 everyone in this audience here today, that it would
11 create some increase of stress level, I would think.

Also some enlightening comments from Marcel taken from his letter to the Attorney General:

"Tensions have again escalated over
13 this past weekend and my constituents
14 have the following concerns."
15 And then we talk about the costs involved
16 with the civil action:

3. That the residents are faced with a
21 situation whereby they cannot sell
22 their properties because of the legal
23 action taken

4. That residents have to pay property
25 taxes while the ownership of their
1 property is in the hands of the Court
2 system."

6. There's a lot of intimidation going on
10 at the moment and the residents feel
11 threatened."
12 Again, this is what I'm passing on from
13 what I'm hearing from the residents

According to the residents:
15 "Law enforcement is basically non
16 existent and the OPP does not seem too
17 keen in getting involved."
18 And lastly:
19 "Residents are stressed out and this
20 situation is becoming unbearable."

Well this may not directly have anything to do with the shooting of Dudley George it certain shows why sympathy towards natives in this area, rightly so is lacking.

The property owners finally won Aug 18, 1995.


Camp Ipperwash and a few comments from Marcel pertaining to the area, and the attitudes of residents leading up to Sept 6

Q:(Lawyer) Now, you indicated that prior to your
11 election as MPP, you were aware that there was a dispute
12 involving the local Aboriginal people concerning the Army
13 Base, the Military Base, Camp Ipperwash.

Q : All right. And did you receive any
24 inquiries or communications from your constituents
25 relative to Camp Ipperwash and this dispute?

(Marcel) Well, yeah, I did -- the subject
5 matter was raised because, again, I think a lot of people
6 in the area felt that a lot of the harassment, the
7 intimidation, the break-ins, were people that live in the
8 Army Base area.

For instance, at night, along the Army
4 Camp Base, high powered flashlights would be flashed in
5 people's homes at night, not only for seconds but for
6 long periods of time where, you know, keep them from
7 sleeping.
8 So, you know, there were certainly some
9 illegal or not legal activities going on in the area

A: Well, I think generally speaking, I
3 think people were concerned first of all part of the Base
4 had been occupied a couple years prior to this and now
5 the entire Base had been taken over and I think the
6 concern was, okay what's next.

Q (Lawyer): And -- and what was the context for
22 that discussion concerning the policing of the Base?
23 A: Well, I was receiving a lot of
24 complaints from area residents that if there was an
25 occurrence that the police would be chasing the
1 individuals and as soon as they got to the Army Base gate
2 that the police chase would stop there.
3 And that created an awful lot of
4 frustration with the people because they felt that the
5 law was not being upheld. And it was just like living in
6 a third world that all of a sudden you got to this area
7 and nothing happens.

A: Well, yeah. And to pass on the --
11 the concerns that I was receiving from my constituents
12 because I felt it was important. You -- you know, we got
13 realize that, you know, this is not 2005 it was 1995, and
14 the situation was pretty tense in the area.
15 I mean, you know, the -- the area is
16 crawling with police. I'm sure there was all kinds of
17 intelligence going on. People were living in fear.
18 People were being intimidated. People were being
19 harassed. People were being chased on the beach.
20 So, it was not a beach -- what you would
21 call a nice Sunday afternoon beach party. So, the area
22 was quite tense and --
A: So, that I can relay back to my
8 constituents. Because you got to -- you -- you must
9 realize that by this time, there's probably a -- you
10 know, calls are coming by -- probably a hundred (100)
11 calls a day coming into the constituency office.
12 Not that I mind the calls, but people are
13 asking for -- for answers and I don't really have
14 anything to give them. And I personally feel that
15 somebody somewhere must have something to give me so that
16 I can pass it on.
A: Well, I'll stand by what I wrote down
2 and I'll read it for the record. It says:
3 "Boaters came ashore for a picnic.
4 Natives pulled in on beach, pulled
5 umbrellas out and coolers and put them
6 in their car, in their car trunks.
7 Confrontation occurred between the
8 Natives and families on beach. Young
9 children were present. Natives threw
10 bottles at the boat and apparently one
11 native pointed a gun at one of the
12 boaters."
13 And that was on August the 20th, 1995, and
14 that's relayed to me by Mr. Williams.


Q:(Lawyer) All right. I see in the third
14 paragraph that this constituent is -- appears to be
15 characterizing the occupiers as hooligans. Was that your
16 interpretation?
17 A: Well, like I said again this morning,
18 some people were referring to them as terrorists, others
19 as hooligans, animals or thugs, so there was different
20 words used, I don't know which one is the proper one.



Them - being natives causing trouble

A: Well, at that particular point in
17 time, we probably talk also about constituents --
18 constituents arming themselves and I certainly didn't
19 want to see that, and I'm sure Inspector Carson did want
20 to see that. And so whether that relates to that, I
21 don't know.
22 Q: Well that --
23 A: Because there was talk, I mean, and I
24 showed evidence, letters, that we received that people
25 were willing -- and phone calls, that people were -- were
1 willing to arm themselves




Marcel pretty well sums up the situation around Ipperwash at the time and today probably still exists just in lower doses.

1 part:
2 "It appears that over the last few
3 years all levels of government have
4 adopted a non confrontational approach
5 when faced with Natives undertaking
6 illegal acts to enforce claims or air
7 grievances. This must stop. Each time
8 Natives or any other identifiable group
9 are seen to make gains through illegal
10 means with no punishment, three (3)
11 things happen.
12 The first is that the public perceives
13 members of the group have special
14 status of the laws that supposedly bind
15 all of us equally and are there to
16 ensure the peaceful co-existence of our
17 society have exceptions. The group is
18 above the law.
19 The second is that the public begins to
20 resent those who have the perceived --
21 who have the perceived special status.
22 Why can that group get away with
23 something we cannot? The public will
24 then react strongly against any group
25 member, rightly or wrongly.
1 This -- this certainly does not lend
2 itself to peaceful co-existence.
3 [Sorry]
4 The activities of a small group of
5 Natives could affect the treatment of
6 Natives across the country. Attitudes
7 will harden into a them versus us
8 mentality and solutions to problems
9 will be much harder to achieve.
10 The third consequence is that overall
11 respect for the law diminishes. There
12 is no such thing as a right without a
13 remedy, neither is there a law without
14 enforcement. If illegal acts are
15 tolerated they spread. The end result
16 is anarchy. People begin to perceive
17 the Government cannot protect them and
18 their interests. They begin to take
19 steps to protect themselves. These
20 steps can lead to tragic consequences.
21 If governments will not enforce the law
22 citizens through elected officials have
23 seen fit to live by, respect for the
24 Government and those who comprise it is
25 -- is lost."


Its funny how thw MSM skips over the comments I mentioned above. I haven't had the time to search for more goodies but I will . Socialists tend to blindly sympathize with those natives that cause these disturbances, as well as turn their heads when their "brothers" harass their white tax paying neighbor's. I'm betting they wouldn't be so sympathetic if it was their land and home under the gun, but then being hypocritical is their M.O. isn't it?

I'm not trying to generalize .Any color of people have the good and bad, so only the guilty need be offended.
Its a real shame 15 million dollars is being spent on BS, when something had to give ; It did and a native unfortunately died.
People thoughts in Forest Ont(home of the inquiry) and surrounding area will not change due to the inquiry, its just more of the same old same old socialist drivel.
Many are wondering when will this ever end, and will our children have to pick up our native neighbours tabs long after their parents are gone?
We need more politicians that say shit when they have a mouth full, and stick by their constituents like Marcel did, their story needed to be told.
The natives well its time to move on, and pick yourselves up.
Full transcript of Marcels's Jan 18 testimony here Jan 19 here, and the inquiry web page here

Your Kidneys Please.

Its just so nice to read the some politicians even know where OUR body parts should wind up.
Where the hell do they get off ?
To be honest I don't have a clue what my donor status is, but if this bill passes, I'll be sure to decline my intent to donate. Freedom of choice sure seems to suffer when "John and Jane Do Good" come up with hair brained ideas to make life so much more unrealistic. Sure it sucks sitting their waiting for an organ transplant, but I wonder what right does someone have to my "stolen" body part. I can hear it now "Your dead what do you need it for ?" I don't, but why let some slimy bureaucrat violate my body and determine my wishes, so he or she can feel like they are worth something.
Its bad enough we are expected to be good little sheep and BAAAAAAAA when instructed. Now politicians think we are obliged to give up an organ or two, just because they know what's best.
Yes you can decline,if you remember to notify the bureaucracy, otherwise your an organ donor.
What's next legislating a vitamin program and diet for every Ontarian, so our organs are healthy,and able to be donated.
Far fetched? Not if we are willing to be treated as livestock by idiots.

They do exist :

A fine example of a conservative woman.

Shes:

1. Smart
2. Witty
3. Strong.
4. Not a victim card in sight.
5. Loves men - and more than capable of monogamy.
6. Wears the pants without wearing them.
7. Can talk about politics
8. Wants to shoot a gun.
9. Graceful (most of the time)
10.Loves the simple things


Like me


Happy Valentines Allison

Love Scott

One one thousand one..One one thousand two.....

Well I’m already bored with all the doom and gloom, floating around about Harper and his ethics. We have had the first wave of “shock” applied to our senses; many have beaten it to death. Let’s hope a good dose of awe is in the wings waiting to dispel the fear of those holding their white flags, and give others that are holding out for the “enlightenment” a reason to burn theirs.

Here are a couple of jabs from the left -

Manley joked that ‘‘every once in a while we have to let the Tories take over so that Canadians remember just how good a Liberal government is.

Eizenga said Harper has demonstrated that he ‘‘can’t be trusted’’ to deliver on his promises. That’s from the Liberal party president and sounds a lot like some of the conservatives that where fit to be tied last week.

From this article ;

Liberals hoping for quick comeback

Maybe that helps remind some conservatives who the real enemy is, and they aren’t on our side of the wire. The liberals are still moving and it isn’t just involuntary muscle spasms. They need a few more sharp political taps across the bridge of their nose, and those carrying the stick shouldn’t be squeamish.

European Word Police

Just another reason for Canada, to NOT be like Europe.
I found this story at Free Dominion.

By agreeing to a charter "the press will give the Muslim world the message: we are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression, we can and we are ready to self-regulate that right", he said.

How nice, have a little tantrum and get an ideological "ice cream cone", anyone know someone kids that where raised that way.
Little "bastards" aren't they?
I'm sure the UN will be sounding their praise soon. Its not a pretty sight watching runaway political correctness, trying to be spoonfed to sheep.

Maybe they would be better served making "How To Be Responsible Activist Classes" mandatory.

Ahmed Akkari, a young Islamic scholar and Danish activist, was on a mission. Having failed to get the Prime Minister to take action over the cartoons' perceived slight to Islam, he had sought help from esteemed figures in the Muslim world, he says.

Well he got it.....

Read the whole thing

A walk down memory lane

For those of you that are outraged and are talking about something akin to reform.

Preston and Stornoway.

Frankly the only principle I'm holding Stephen to (at the moment) is to hold on and make some positive changes in Ottawa. Many seem to think Conservatism holds the same power as the Ark of the Covenant when it comes to impressing the electorate and vaporizing modern liberalism with principles, that might of worked a decade or two ago, and will again if Harper wins enough games of chess.
Realistically in this parliament, Harpers decisions are going to bring up the stomach bile in conservatives more than once I'm afraid.
You can't stand on principles in politics, when your basically holding on by your finger nails.

Disappointing? Not really.....

Wow, getting home from work and learning David Emerson has crossed the floor to the conservatives. Well to be honest in the past I had a local "liberal" MP who I wished would have done the same, as she was against C-68, SSM, as well as other things her government supported, she never did but she did drop out before the last election , my guess - she silently realized her party was way left of her small town - rural values, and found her conscience

I've seen it said Emerson is a blue grit (red tory?). Not my favorite kind of conservative, actually I'm more receptive to social liberals, who I believe are more deserving of the term confused conservative, than red tories are.

I certainly didn't like Belinda crossing the floor, and Mr Emerson I'm sure pissed off many voters in his riding, and conservatives outside of it as well, and I can't really agree with what he did on a personal basis. However Emerson is walking into a shaky situation - a weak minority(now stronger), where no one really knows whats going to come of this new parliment, lead by the conservatives.
He didn't exactly land into the kind of empire that Belinda enjoyed with Martin and the (thieving) liberals.

Myself I think Harper sees the bigger picture, in a positive sence for the whole country.Not just a few select groups.I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bath water yet.

My liberal lite alarm isn't going off.


I've always believed Harper has had a vision for a different Canada, one many of us can remember, its been boarded over by modern liberalism and its "insanity".
Harper wants to make all of us proud of the things that really matter , first though he needs a chance, and I'm willing to give him one.

Some great comments on Emerson's crossing can be found here.

Update Kate has an excellent post up

Better late than never.

Well I’m a little late off the mark when it comes to comments, on the “nasty” cartoons. I was busy this weekend, and was wondering how to address the whole issue.
After reading this snippet:


A democracy cannot survive long without freedom of expression, the freedom to argue, to dissent, even to insult and offend. It is a freedom sorely lacking in the Islamic world, and without it Islam will remain unassailed in its dogmatic, fanatical, medieval fortress; ossified, totalitarian and intolerant. Without this fundamental freedom, Islam will continue to stifle thought, human rights, individuality; originality and truth.

Unless, we show some solidarity, unashamed, noisy, public solidarity with the Danish cartoonists, then the forces that are trying to impose on the Free West a totalitarian ideology will have won; the Islamization of Europe will have begun in earnest. Do not apologize.


By Ibn Warraq

(h/t Kate)



and following this principle, what goes around …




Comes around :





I’ll side with FREEDOM, and with those that don’t kill or threaten to because they are offended.
As for the progressives, that love to coddle victims of there own self prescribed imbecility, then wrap them in socialist tolerance.
Keep it up and sooner or later when your head is buried in the sand , your hypocrisy will sneak up and bite you in the ass.

Whats that smell? Oh its Miller and McGuinty.

The more I hear Premier McGuinty , the more I seem to think his ilk in our provincial government, as well as those in Toronto city council and the mayors office, are off their stick.
Its seems Toronto is going to come up short on its power demands buy 2008, and McGuinty with his “red cape” and unsettling grin, will save the day.
How you ask?

Well Toronto needs to build a generating station says McGuinty. I wouldn’t doubt it as McGuinty seems to love to walk step in step with the KYOTOITES. Lets face it, even clean burning coal fired plants are being shut down by his comrades.
If that isn’t bad enough, what fossil fuel does he want to replace coal with? The same fuel many heat their homes with natural gas, now think supply and demand and imagine a liberal government that knows best when it comes to your finances.
Now in Toronto’s case you would think if a generating station was going to be built, and Toronto had a garbage problem it would burn …….garbage .

Sorry you have the wrong government and wrong mayor. It seems Miller wants co generation as people in Toronto would like subsidized heating for their homes and industry. I think that’s great as well, as long as the residents pay for it, not their neighbours, and its fired by their garbage.

It also seems Miller is fond of the way it is done in Europe.
Well Mr Miller you don’t have to look far to see how they do it.

People that share Miller's views seem to resemble those that would throw a dirty diaper on your lawn, just so they didn’t have to smell it. They don’t seem to mind, the garbage trucks rolling down the 401 and 402 getting rid of THEIR garbage, making more smog, filling your landfills, congesting your highways, etc.

They are just anti- anything that can be shown to make their life uncomfortable, but at the same time could care less about you.

Please just make Toronto its own country, at least then we could close the borders.

Coddling "Little"Johnny

Listening to a local talk radio show the other day, I couldn’t help but notice how the subject matter, brought the liberal out of the guest.
The subject was about crime and youth and a highly successful non-profit program in Sarnia Ontario under the name of Rebound .
I was bothered while listening to the guest list the reasons (excuses), that where responsible for crime among the youth, their families and communities.

Busy parents, video games, peer pressure, the regular old shtick. Yes there are lots of potential problems for sure, in our society and those parents honestly blindsided by a teen’s depression, as well those teens good at heart, but made a youthful mistake (mild crime) should have help available.

However listening to the soft logic of the guest and grabbing my cell to call and voice my differing opinion, only to get a busy signal.Luckily some callers already sensed the guest was a liberal progressive softy, and where trying to dispel her points.

The host was asking some good questions.

Do you see a certain age group as the biggest problem?

Is one family dynamic worse than the next when it comes to teens committing crimes?

Do you see more boys or girls in your program?

These are not exactly worded as asked, but as I recall accurately represent what the host was trying to get to; “the meat of things”

The guests’ answers to these questions can basically be boiled down to “liberalese”.

I hate singling one group or person. The problems are equally spread out, no matter what circumstance or what gender happened to pertain to the kids in her program. In other words, she hid the real facts(whatever they happen to be) beneath political correctness. For example the host asked if the guest’s program uses the soft approach, the guest thought effective would be a better word.(I’m guessing soft was a great guess).

Isn’t coddling one from reality one of the reasons kids are in her program in the first place?

To her “boot camps” where negative”, as well as listing the names of young offenders. Parenting to her was rocket science, and kids not knowing right from wrong by twelve seemed unfortunate but not disgusting. She also felt that video games actually fed these children their reality and they where unable to distinguish their real world. In that case they should be made to watch The Chronicles of Narnia for a week straight maybe then they’ll straighten up their act, if her reasoning is so valid. I would actually agree with her if I didn’t already have a good idea any kind of Christian themed entertainment would be looked at by her like it was a plate of boiled brussel sprouts.

Can’t one be stern and then compassionate? Does not grabbing a teen by the shirt collar, looking them straight in the eye, while laying out the gist of their life that lays ahead on their present(I'm a piss-ant and proud of it) course, not have something clear to add to their rationality?

These kids aren’t stupid, actually I’d guess they are all rather smart, maybe we should be treating them like they are, not treating them like handicaps that somehow are excused from knowing right from wrong, when in reality they would rather act out and not give a damn about any moral rule, except their own. Trouble is at one time freedom came with personal responsibility.

Parents do have problems they are not supposed to be perfect, some don’t notice the signs and some couldn’t care to. That’s life, and sometimes young human beings are not given the best guardians, its sad sure but don’t all of us have to rise to some occasion that doesn’t see self pity as productive, or irrational when it isn’t warranted as a perpetual crutch.

We have had generations of “progressive” means on countering negative progress, it isn’t working.

I do not doubt the caring shown by the guest when it came to teens, but until people in her position call a spade a spade, things will never change.

Denial is for dead donkeys and societies that fall victim to their bleeding hearts.

Things are getting interesting......

Well I have to say things are heating up when it comes to Harper and his cabinet, new liberal corruption and all the opinions out there in political pundit land. Most interesting to me though is the whining thats started to come from Toronto by Miller.
It never ends the left and me, me, me. its a familar broken record. I wonder, do they ever wonder if people exsist outside of their borders.....? That just happen to think the opposite of them...?
I'm guessing not really.
That would take commonsense.

Election Night

It's 8:30 amd I'm sitting here like a huge number of other Canadians and so far its playing out the same as last election, and I'm hopeing to God it turns out different than last time.

Well its 10:30 they are saying conservative minority, and the cons have won my riding, however I'd of hate to have seen if the libs ran a good campaign, we have alot to learn in this province of Ontario, and maybe times to come will teach them?

The libs should be reeling in the dirt, god what have we become.

Parliament is going to be very interesting, I wonder if anything conservative will even pass?

Oh well.... we will see.

Update: You people that voted liberal, just remember how much fortitude it takes to justify voting for the crooks when more dirt is unearthed once parliament is in session again. I have not one ounce of respect for any liberal (STUPID and UNPRINCIPLED) its a wonder liberals don't crawl.

Don't you wish?

Wouldn’t it be nice to be able to take someone that still voted for a liberal Monday somewhere you could physically demonstrate to them the folly of their intellect?

I don’t mean beat them; I know it just drives a person crazy trying to figure the unashamed liberal voter out. I was thinking more along the lines of the way the allies showed the Germans living close to the concentration camps what had went on under their noses.

I’m not suggesting liberals are Nazi’s, what I’ am suggesting is that liberal voters are letting very unethical behaviour by their governing party go unnoticed.

I'd wish they would wake up, for Pete's sake. It is too soon to be sure how bad or good it could be but there are still people, maybe many that are more afraid of a conservative perceived as as a westerner, than Liberals that are blatantly screwing them.

How intelligent is a citizen that asks for a flogging?

Just in case a voter wanders in here and is confused as to what all the fuss is about when it comes to liberals, or is in some sort of self induced denial.

Take a gander over to Kate’s site and look for yourself here.

Read through the comments of the first article (Jan 20) and ask yourself if anyone voting liberal knows the difference between right and wrong . I wish they did.

Have government job will travel

Look what Conservative Life has found

Take a good look at the snow outside,
and those Christmas bills your paying.

What you say, no comment from the MSM? - here's why

If things are going to change in this country , we need media outlets that show better judgement , when it comes to governments, honesty, and a better country, not more of the same.

Meandering

Have you ever wondered what has happened to Canada, our society as a whole, and why?

What forces are at play in this country, and is it due to an ideology, or a natural change?

I’ve wondered, and looking back I think I’ve been wondering since I was sixteen. Maybe it’s the value I place on my family, and the peaceful hindsight I gather thinking back on the years I spent growing up in a small community of 400 in south western Ontario, that have raised the alarm. These values where taught or just absorbed from my home, my community, my teachers, actually my country as a whole, that now seem so different once removed from the community I live in now, coincidently close to where I grew up.

Peace seems to be in a short supply in Canada, people seem in such a hurry, life seems so fragmented to many. Simple seems to only have existed or have any virtue when you look back, or look into the eyes of an older Canadian. A clear sense of right and wrong has been replaced by the word tolerance. Responsibility, duty, and the desire to carry each virtue out, have been replaced by excuses that are tolerated. Kids are not allowed to fail, or feel the temporary sting of not being perfect, they are not expected to tow a moral line or even taught there is a moral line. What value do any of these demerits have to individuals and their society.

I believe many once shared strong values.No matter what color you where, or your position on the social ladder, and those same values built strong families and communities. People made there own desisions and believed in them , and government once respected that.

It could be said we where all equal before equal became a household term to our government. Certainly you can say changes where needed though one could argue blind progress and the failure to admit the lack of forth sightedness has brought this country and certain progressive movements of the political left closer to the gutter of denial then a positive truth that gives the whole society a step up.

That’s why I have come to believe that a respect for tradition with a hint of responsible progression would have been much more beneficial to our Canadian society. We have forgotten the one thing Canadians past knew and took to heart and that was the value in keeping life simple. Wrong and right was black and white; you did your best on honest terms, and did not respect those that cut corners for their own benefit. This lead to a society as a whole that held these values at the center of their being, and where cognizant of them, thus making up a country of strong independent individuals.

Many Canadians still hold those values dear but fail to realise, the governments they elected sought to undermine those very values and sabotage them and each year, each decade replace values that freely built this country with values that put a price on the truth and that price was the truth should be hidden, and morals would become neutral.

Instead of families raising responsible citizens, and being respected and unhindered for doing so by government, they became unlikely pawns in a liberal, socialist “experiment”.

That experiment abandoned the past virtues passed down by parents, families, communities, with new and “improved” virtues that needed to be only given meaning by those in power and those that found solace for their own misery by screaming in a compassionate government’s ear. The government started to provide sustenance in the belief life for individuals would become easier, many programs where developed until society eventually became more dependent on government , and government became more dependant of society’s hard earned money and their abilty to sugar coat this fact with lies.

Socialism became a delicate balance easier to manage the more dependent the electorate willingly became, while losing rights to challenge the government
That balance today is not working, for in reality government can never take the responsibility from you even if it tries. Modern liberals and socialists think peacefulness can be bought or provided from government, when it truly has to come from an individual taught by other individuals through life up until they mature mentally and are able to find peace themselves in the simple truth common to life in any FREE country.

Liberals and socialists will always fail in the end; our country is a result of their limited actions and disregard for “better off” (self reliant, responsible, not easy lead) individuals that take pride in themselves.

All our country needs is a leader with integrity that respects wisdom placed upon us from our past, who believes in the individual, and sees a great hope for Canada that exists within our borders and has no responsible limits. No matter if it comes to our military, right down to our social services that can be sustained, not defended with excuses.

A strong conservative can only be the one to give everyone back their country, each citizen their individual voice, and each citizen a freedom they can be proud of, while their country is respected once again by its neighbours.

The only thing it will cost us as our country is some old fashioned repect, the loss of our apathy, a desire for freedom, and a desire for an honest democracy

Who would have guessed ?

Well we still have a week to go in this election. Seeing the Liberals come unglued as they have , with help from the MSM has been rather surreal , for me and I would guess many other conservatives.
Why the change this time around ? Are people really sick of the corruption , the libs way to arrogant , or have the conservative blogs held the MSM's nose to the grindstone.
Myself I think (so far) the blogs have saved the day , for the conservatives .
Certainly a leader like Harper coming into his own this time around doesn't hurt either.
Lets hope the good fortune hold for the next seven days.
I think it will and sincerely hope it does.
If so I think many conservatives will be in shock.
We all owe a great debt to some great conservative blogs. As well as some others.
It seems our "Rush Limbaughs" have silently rose to the occasion , and did their country and just maybe soon to be leader , a great service.
This is one election where things really seem to have changed for the better.
When it comes to conservatism this may be the biggy, everyone remembers for years to come.
I for one hope its a new start for Canada , and will open people's eyes.
Who would have guessed , things would seem so positive !!

Martins not so Hidden Agenda

Monday night during the debates Martin , proclaimed he would push for the removal of the Not Withstanding Clause in our Charter to strengthen it.


"The first act of a new Liberal government is going to be to strengthen the Charter and we will do that by removing . . . the possibility for the federal government to use the notwithstanding clause, because quite simply I think governance says that the courts shouldn't be overturned by politicians," Mr. Martin said.
He certainly caught every one off guard , including the three other leaders in the debate with him.

Martin was quick to challenge , his complete opposite.

When asked whether he agrees, Mr. Harper said he is satisfied with the current law.


"I think our Charter provides a balance and that's why I support the present construction of the Charter," he said, adding that property rights should be included in it.

Many other people throughout history and today would agree with Mr Harper when it comes to property rights.



Kirk, Russell
Seventh, conservatives are persuaded that freedom and property are closely linked. Separate property from private possession, and Leviathan becomes master of all.

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1993 - from "Ten Conservative Principles", in the second chapter of The Politics of
Prudence



Private property began the instant somebody had a mind of his own.
Author: E. E. Cummings


"Private property is the most important guarantee of freedom." -- F.A. Hayek


"The sacred rights of property are to be guarded at every point. I call them sacred, because, if they are unprotected, all other rights become worthless or visionary. What is personal liberty, if it does not draw after it the right to enjoy the fruits of our own industry? What is political liberty, if it imparts only perpetual poverty to us and all our posterity? What is the privilege of a vote, if the majority of the hour may sweep away the earnings of our whole lives, to gratify the rapacity of the indolent, the cunning, or the profligate, who are borne into power upon the tide of a temporary popularity?" -- Judge Joseph Story, 1852



I think Martins statement's more than reveal why he is in politics , and what modern liberalism is not about ; you and your freedom .

They mistake blind tolerance of everything including the state as freedom , and they would love the power to convince their "subjects" that government always has a point , that trumps yours .
As long as your morally neutral , and keep your mouth shut no problem , but look out if you have your own opinion opposite theirs, see government as the problem , and stand up for what you deem right. Don't believe me read this
Luckily free men and women sometime choose to do this

Do you think free people have the right to stand up and counter unjust actions , against persons and their property , by governments?

(Thanks go to Kate)


Martin doesn't think so !

Liberal Leader Paul Martin said property rights is the "shrine at which the U.S. conservative movement bows."

He said enshrining those rights in the Constitution would allow the government to attack a range of laws.

"If property rights were enshrined in the Constitution then probably you would not be able to ban handguns," Martin said




Mr Harper does !!

Harper said he has no desire to strike down those kinds of laws.

"We believe the Charter of Rights should reflect the right to own property, the right not to be deprived of property without due process of law and just and timely compensation

Full Story


I wanted to post on this since Monday , and at first was disappointed property rights wasn't making the head lines I thought it should , as its one issue that definately points to a leader with real values , and a leader that can't seem to stop talking about the values he thinks "Liberal" Canada should have , oh and heres some insight on a mentor of his.

Martin cares about control , Harper your freedom , and I don't think it takes much work to see which one would be ashamed to be called a tyrant , and which one doesn't care as long as it gets what he wants (your submission).

Maybe Canadians are catching on?
Lets Hope!!

Mr. Integrity

Blue Blogging Soapbox: Paul Martin vs Paul Martin: The Debate Game (Flash)

Try the game its hilarious - send it to all your liberal friends as well.

One does evil enough when one does nothing good. ~German Proverb

and liberal policy.

Oh if this could only stick - like melting plastic to skin

Many gun owners , observant conservatives, and libertarians could have told Canadians long ago they weren't being dealt with honestly, when it came to government manipulated public opinion on private gun ownership.
I do hope the latest liberal scandal takes wing and sticks .

Liberals in positions of power show some true disregard for the word -Honorable


honorable
hon·or·a·ble
adjective
Definitions:

1. having personal integrity: guided by, or with a reputation for having, strong moral and ethical principles

2. deserving or gaining honor: worthy of or winning honor, respect, recognition, or glory

3. morally upright: upright and moral in intent ( formal )
I hope his intentions are honorable.


Hmmm Looks like liberals(and others) have struck out , don't think I put the definition up for you to read like you didn't know , its just liberal and NDP voters needed reminding.


Get a sinking feeling about your government and their stink?. Dead skunk's smell better in July .

I had the same feeling years ago in front of the parliment buildings in Ottawa watched by teams of men in camo up on the roof's of buildings holding binoculars , watching our large crowd of (10 ,000) protesting C-68 , but we remained peaceful and honest , (like we where the ones prone to crime...haha) . We believed C-68 to be unfair and a rather asinine. But very few listened.

Today here we are and things are starting to unravel and low and behold another tip of the elusive but proverbial , liberal iceburg , formed by your hard earned cash , and political self serving arrogance .

It seems to have been finally lit up the radar screen to enlighten those that desire to show what has really been going on under the apathetic noses of Canadians.

Who would have knew today that one of the same parties that concocted Bill C-68 now has those same "binoculars " pointed at them but though peaceful they seem to be rather very crooked , and they want to "control" the guns , simmering irony don't ya think .

"My government would never harm an innocent person or property" but they will sure as hell steal , and I'd be carefull how liberals apply the word innocent to anyone other than themselves.
Remember "right is wrong and wrong is right".
Liberals that get it right are either across the floor already with the conservatives or by themselves, or just sitting on the otherside side confused.

Lets not forget the bureaucracy they feed like a farmer trying to fatten up a pig for market.

"When the growth of a bureaucracy passes beyond control, it becomes a law unto itself. The process is self-fulfilling. The failure of each new intrusion compels it to intrude again. More people are hired, more programmes devised to occupy them, until the bureaucracy's original purpose is obscured. No longer is it there to administer the law, for the law has been buried. It is there to minister to itself."

- Kenneth McDonald

Here is some correspondence from someone that has experienced this first hand.

While we're at it, lets not forget the CFGC refused for years to file financial the statements and audits that are required by law to maintain its tax-exempt status. At any rate in order to have tax-exempt status it must not only be a not-for-profit organization but in addition it must be non-partisan.

The CFGC has failed to file the paperwork to support its claim to be not-for-profit AND it is obviously shilling for the Liberals, is on their payroll, and is staffed at its most senior levels by key Liberal Party members.

Therefore we must demand of CCRA that they be hit with the full tax bill for all their revenues over the years.

I made a complaint about this to CCRA some years ago, but was rebuffed. Maybe we'll have more luck now?

--
M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike)
Rural Family Physician, Sherbrooke, NS
January,6,2006

Canada can't take many more years with the liberal's at the helm driving with one hand on the wheel and the other snapping up our money like it was their own. Down the highway of lawlessness.

Maybe justice will be served for gun owners and Canadians alike , and the guilty will maybe recieve alittle more punishment than teaching ethics classes , I for one hope that justice is dealt and it stings like melting plastic to skin , and the "slave" becomes the "master".

This takes getting a bang for a buck to a new level

You know all the concern shown by politicians on the news after the boxing day shootings , looked genuine but then you read this from Terence Corcoran of the financial post.

The City of Toronto's latest budget extravaganza, dropped on citizens this week

As for the possibility of spending cuts and efficiency gains, the city's left-leading control block, under union-friendly Mayor Miller, has been unable to find more than $43-million of spending excess in their $7.65-billion plan -- a plan that's 25% above 2002 levels. And given the big capital spending budget announced earlier, Toronto's spending demands beyond 2006 are set to soar. New debt charges alone will add $350-million a year in new spending over the next four years

Where's all this money going? Much of it will keep the city stocked with union employees earning the highest wages in the country under new contracts that give them job security. Other areas of rising spending are social services (+40%), culture (+19%), waste management (+5%), Toronto transit (+31%) and police service (+5%).

Well thats it the violence is going to recede because the culprits and their parents , are going to be bribed into realizing they ARE worth a crap.

Funny? Didn't individuals used to have to find that out on their own , with alittle help from somebody that just took the time to care ?

I'm not insensitive I just get hives everytime a socialist throws money at a problem , instead of thinking


Some more responsible ramblings from the Globe and mail


Yesterday, Mr. Miller said he hopes to negotiate a five-year commitment from the province to pay for a range of programs that he argues should be covered by the provincial government, not local property-tax payers. The Toronto Board of Trade agrees, arguing the city could shrink the budget gap by $300-million if Queen's Park takes full responsibility for social services. (and the heat off him)

Great I glad I'm three hours away from "fantasy" land and still I am in "danger" of getting stuck with another socialist's "bar" tab , and somehow down the road I'll be responsible for a bunch of punks that actually shoot people with ILLEGAL hand guns , for something to do.

What genuine responsibility , and leadership you show Mr Miller for YOUR community .




Yes Mr Churchill you warned us .

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.

-- Winston

I am fond of that quote as people like Miller , Mcginty , and Martin are always quick to prove him right. Especially when they need your money even when one of the three seems to be able to stomach his party (literally) stealing it .
When they need to make up for their lack of genuine ideas.